(Debate in Santa Barbara, 7 October 1996)

Audience;         ((end of a big applause))

Moderator;       Mr. Hospidar

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Hospidar;         ((clears voice)) as you know I am standing here tonight for Dr. (Tomastik) I’m actually running, for. the 23rd Congressional seat which is South of here. so what I’d like to do is to introduce the Natural Law Party to all of you. … ((continues))