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Testimonio by Ross Munoz at the 1999 Movimiento at UCLA Conference

I guess I represent a little bit different stream of becoming involved in UCLA and in the Chicano Movement. Maybe I was one of those that was looked at as not quite so Chicano when I got involved with UMAS in 1967.

I probably was one of the few whose parents had graduated from college and had a parent who had a Ph.D. That arose out of some of the movements in the 1930's when my parents got out of high school and there were movements for equality, movements of the working class, and the trade union movement, and other things in Arizona where my parents were from. And so both my father and mother, my mother was the first one, although her family had been in Arizona for over a hundred years, the first one of her family to go to the University there and was one of four.

My father being the oldest from an immigrant family was the first in his family to go to college although in that family most of the family did go on to college and become teachers and married with other teachers. One of them my uncle Felix Gutierrez was active in the Mexican American movement of the late 1930's and 40's and edited their papers. My dad would help out during those times before the war going out to different schools and trying to recruit Mexican Americans into college at that time. Although my father pursued a more professional career he wasn't politically involved. He was involved in the school system working in social work and eventually worked for the Los Angeles city school system and got promoted a little bit after the supreme court decision of 1954 and than after Julian Nava was elected too previously he would educate in college courses the people who would then move above him in the school system. But after Nava was elected I think in 1967 that changed a little bit. So I always expected to go to college.


I grew up with my dad going to college for his Ph.D. on the G.I Bill and was always reading books and involved in school. My older brother and sister as well as my younger brother and sister that was our orientation which meant that after we moved out of Lincoln Heights when I was around ten years old was when I began going to school and having very few if any Mexican Americans in my classes. Although I went to school in Highland Park which, at that time Franklin High School was considered a paddy school but there were significantly growing numbers of Mexican Americans at those schools. during the 50's and 60's. I was elected student body president at Franklin as the first Mexican American back in 1964. And just for the record I ran as student body president and had my name in for graduation as Rosalio not as Ross Munoz and did the same thing here at UCLA. And it still bothers me sometimes that a lot of people at UCLA still refer to me as Ross but I think more now cariñosamente. But it took me a long time to get used to that until I realized that the other people that called me Ross are like my mother and some of my sisters because that's the name my dad had to have in order to go to college and get a job or it was just changed for him. In fact he was advised to change his last name if he wanted to get college scholarships back in the 1930's. So that's how I got my name as a junior Ross.

The discrimination was there even for our type of family. My sister Maria Rosalia got an A average. She was advised to go to East Los Angeles College and even got a scholarship, Armando Castro scholarship to go to ELAC. But she came to UCLA and entered the nursing program. She may have been the first Mexican American to graduate but she married her husband whose last name was Wortnick and was never recognized, I remember going to hearings of Chicanos testifying that they hadn't let Mexicans into the nursing school a couple years after my sister had graduated. I mean that's how we were into Spanish surnames, that is how we were identified and that is how the information came out at that time.

My older brother was also advised to go to Junior College. He is presently the presiding judge of the unemployment appeals court in downtown Los Angeles although it took Affirmative Action to achieve that. I never got a counselor to advise me how to go to college and the only place I applied was UCLA where my brother and sister had come. And it is really true that there were not 100 Mexican Americans a couple years before Ron had come. EOP had indeed started and there are many more people here in this room than there were Mexican Americans at UCLA when I first went there. And the ones that I knew were my brother and sister. It was a very interesting kind of a thing. I remember they tried to recruit me into fraternities, which I didn't want to be in. It represented discrimination to me and elitism in other things in my mind. But I was heavily sought after because a lot of them didn't want to recruit African Americans.

When I would make friends on campus and people realized I was a Mexican American they would begin to tell me "Don't you find these Jewish people real strange?, real funny?" Then the other real common thing when people talked to me about my ethnicity it was generally people from actually other Hindus that were on the campus asked me if I were Hindu, if I was from India or other places because they didn't have a concept of seeing a Mexican American or Mexican on campus especially those first two years here at UCLA.

I got involved actually in the student movement of the times before getting involved in UMAS. And actually UMAS hadn't really begun at that time. I was very disappointed with campus education and found it not to be challenging enough, found it to be dehumanizing, found it wasn't the kind of intellectual growth place that I wanted for myself. And I found that there was a lot of great orientation in other things. I got involved in a movement that we called the Experimental college at UCLA. It was a criticism of the University for being a very cold, calculated, servant. I guess we didn't put it that way at the time but of the establishment.

Our generation grew up after Sputnik and after education was being pushed as part of the Cold War competition. Science was being pushed very heavily at that time. Universities were growing and drawing more from the middle class and a little bit more from the working class at the time. But it was a very regimented style of University especially at a place like UCLA. So students protested against that it was part of the overall student movement and the Experimental College we took on topics that were things from parapsychology kind of courses, to course in Marxism, to courses in other social issues that we were involved in the Experimental College.

And I happened to be elected the chairman of the first kind of a group it was kind of an underground group in the campus that got together to discuss it. I volunteered to chair the first meeting and was nominated chairman. Fortunately one of the guys pushing it was a very progressive editor of the Daily Bruin so I found name on the first page of the Daily Bruin of a leader of a movement on the campus. And it had an impact. We have fifteen to twenty courses of students and professors and other people just organizing their own courses, just really kind of discussion groups or rap groups or whatever we might call them now but it was a protest against the University. It was a criticism of the University. I remember on the college bulletin, Franklin Murphy who was a very high powered man in this country at that time was Chancellor and he called UCLA the "marketplace of ideas". So on our first bulletin or announcement of the Experimental College, we called it the corner mom and pop store of education.

And I got involved through that in the educational reform movement which was the tail end (inaudible) of the Free Speech Movement and actually it was a very illuminating experience. [It] got me involved with a lot of people and got me noticed by a lot of people and I was hired as kind of a student counselor by the counseling center at UCLA. In a way it was kind of supporting my activism and the kinds of activism I was espousing on the campus and, perhaps, was a way of trying to push for affirmative action among forces within the administration. I don't know, I don't know the people that made the decision to hire me and why they did that. But I was hired to do was, one of the first things they actually asked me to do outside of what I was otherwise doing was, to try teaching some of the or tutoring or being involved in the Upward Bound movement, where I got in touch with student from Roosevelt and from South LA and other high schools that were there. {This] was very educationalf or me as much as it was for them.

My older brother at the time got me a little bit more involved in some, he had graduated from UCLA and was working with the gangs in East L.A. along with other people like Antonio Rodriguez and going to groups with Al Juarez and others. And so he took me to some of the first formulating meetings for UMAS. I wasn't aware of what it was. I didn't identify politically that way. But I remember going to City Terrace and Eastern with a group from Monteperez and others were discussing what are we going to call this group. One guy Jesus he went to USC suggested we have a Chicano fraternity. I said, "We don't need that kind of a thing." And it went on.

I began going to some of the UMAS meetings right after being elected to the student council at UCLA. I was elected education policy commissioner and started going to some of the meetings. I was a little frightened because I didn't speak [Spanish]. Spanish was not my first language. I had learned it having spent a year in Mexico but I didn't feel articulate in it at all. I remember going to UMAS meetings and Spanish was often a primary language and so I felt intimidated by that. Some people might of thought I was stuck up or stand offish but I felt a little intimidated. I was not from a lower income community. Spanish is not my first language and many of the people in UMAS were [understanding] because many of the people I think in UMAS had some schooling in Mexico which didn't have quite the stigma or discouragement from them.

The first real involvement with UMAS that I had was when UMAS decided to sponsor a symposium on campus for the Chicano Movement inviting Corky Gonzalez, Reyes Tijerina, Bert Corona, Luis Valdez and a number of others were going to be paid and they wanted to pay money. I had been critical as a student council member of a lot of the fraternities and athletic support who got big banquets and big budgets from the student council. And UMAS came to me and wanted to get several hundreds of thousands of dollars for this conference to pay for people I hadn't heard of, but they wanted me to present because that was the only proper thing to do. And I really am happy they did. I had a hard time, I say, "You mean, I gotta ask for that much money for these people that people don't know?" And Moctezuma Esparza cornered me in the halls of Kerckoff hall and he told "Rosalio," or he might have said Ross, "Look in the mirror, eres muy indio. Your in this movement whether you want to be or not." And I said, "You know, it's true." And so I went and advocated for that and to me that symposium, not because that fight, I guess was part of it, [It] was very important to me. And the most important part and the part I will never forget of the ballroom there was Reyes Tijerina getting up and going about his evangelical style in Spanish. My grandfather was a Protestant, Methodist minister and didn't have quite the style of a Tijerina… entirely in Spanish [Tijerina's talk] looking about these people that I had been involved in Kerckoff hall and classes just unable to understand any of it, but I could understand it. It just was something unbelievable. You know when my first time in my big hall at UCLA they advised us history majors that we shouldn't take Spanish that we should take French and German. You know the other big meeting I went to was Abbot Lodge telling us how vicious the Vietkong were, now its Milosevic or whoever they are doing that with now. But that was really something to see that on the campus. To me it represented my culture my roots were now really on the campus.

I think the next big thing was what Reynaldo Macias mentioned the Phi Si incident, the Viva Zapata party, they called it their second annual. I think they had there 25th about ten years ago. And that was really a challenge because it made me see the kind of institutional racism that affected some of the students. [We] the student council and eventually through UMAS we convinced them the administration we wanted them to completely throw them off the campus. But they were at least suspended. The student council said that the administration was dictating to the students, these are overreacting Mexicans here that are oversensitive. And I remember the women next to me on the student council said some of my best friends are in UMAS but …I remember after that I resigned from the student council and it wasn't really noticed.

There was a student election we were trying to get an African American, Eddy Anderson and a Mexican Jorge Aguiniga as President and Vice-President. But in reaction to this suspending of this Greek thing there was a Greek power rally on election day on the campus that day. Hundreds and hundreds of them and what it meant was white power against us. And that was a very kind of frightening thins. Actually during all that controversy I met a guy named Ramses Noriega whom I knew in UMAS but he congratulated me for resigning. He thought it was an act or courage and conviction and it started me working with Ramses and we later worked together to organize the Chicano Moratorium a couple of years later. He was the one who helped organize my successful campaign for student body president the next year.

But one of the things that incident and that activism of ours triggered was what was called the Chancellor's Taskforce for the Urban Crisis that was organized. And it was really the beginnings of affirmative action, official Affirmative Action on the campus. There were African American students represented. UMAS was represented. Ron and I were on the studies program, myself on the entrance program. But we were really executing the policy of UMAS at the time. And we put our emphasis primarily on the entrance and we argued that we need to have more students. They needed to lower the standards, and have plenty of money. We studied the history of enrollment in the University.

The highest points for enrollment for UCLA were in the later 1940's and mid 50's after the Korean and WWII when there was money through the G.I. Bill to allow Mexican Americans in after the money was not available there were much fewer. But we argued that we need to get rid of the standards for admission to really dig into our community and that was created in the High Potential Program which actually recruited a lot of the activists from the walkouts. But one last point one thing that happened after all of that even though the Greeks had led this big movement the next year there was a very corrupt government a lot of these people that were in student government ended up in the Watergate Whitehouse they were tricksters and political manipulators. In any event when one of them got thrown out there was an opening for Student Body President and I saw I had a chance to win and my friend Ramses said, "It would be useful to our movement to do that"

In the fall of 68 we came back on campus organized my campaign off the farm workers picket of the Safeway that used to be in Westwood village and was elected by substantial majority by the student body. And one of the things that we did get passed at that point was that funds from the students voluntarily were voted to fund affirmative action and fund minority and poverty student opportunity on the campus. It was needed I think a reaction to the reaction to the backlash to the backlash of the year before. And I think it's important to see that. There was substantial support from white students from much of the faculty and others for affirmative Action at that time and there were opportunities. And I think if we are going to win affirmative action in the future we are going to have to be talking about what does affirmative action mean to changing education for everyone white, black, brown working class people in this society. And I think that is the key because we are now in a position where we are not just speaking as a minority but a significant part of the progressive movement in our country and to really take on the issues of affirmative action and Chicano education we have to be taking on the whole system of education.



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